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Reply Oly-RRR, July 23rd, 2014, 3:15 pm

I know an underdog when I see one. :D Really, it's annoying when you mind your own business and people start poking and prodding you just because you're less social and so must be an easy target.

Reply mitchellbravo, July 23rd, 2014, 6:26 pm

@Oly-RRR: Yes!!! That was a frustrating part about my childhood. I had a really difficult time reading facial expressions, body language, and interpreting tone so i could never tell when people were "joking," therefore I came across as "serious" and people liked to kid around with me more :/

Reply Oly-RRR, July 23rd, 2014, 8:03 pm

@mitchellbravo: Gosh, you sound like me when I was a kid! It's interesting - I notice a lot of people drawing cartoons (and so quite good at drawing facial expressions) had trouble reading them as children.

These days I like watching people so I notice small things but as soon as I'm not watching the situation from the outside it gets harder to the all the clues and hints.

Reply mitchellbravo, July 23rd, 2014, 8:30 pm

@Oly-RRR: That's an interesting observation. I wonder if it's (consciously or not) a way for us to try to study/learn/get to understand others. My problem, I believe, stems from the fact that I was born with hardly any vision in my right eye, so up until the time I was seven, I wore a patch over my strong eye (as well as glasses) to encourage my brain to forge a connection to the weaker eye. My vision, with correction, out of that eye now is about 20/25, but the brain-eye-connection isn't quite there- the analogy I make is that my left eye speaks English, my right eye speaks French- my brain *can* understand the right eye, but it takes longer, so it just bypasses and mostly only pays attention to the left eye anyway :P

Well, point being that in those early developmental years I feel I had a disadvantage that had a stronger impact on me socially than people (even adults) understood. I mean, I couldn't express it because I didn't know things could be any other way, but looking back on it, I remember I had a bitch of a time telling people a part if they didn't have very distinct features. Maybe that's why I liked cartoons so much- by design, they're made to be easily distinguished :)

Reply Oly-RRR, July 23rd, 2014, 10:16 pm

@mitchellbravo: Ah, yeah, that makes sense!

I think most people have one dominant eye but in most cases it's less obvious. I have different vision in both eyes and at some point my mother decided it would be best to get glasses with lenses both set for the stronger eye (crap, I'm bad with numbers so I never remember how bad it exactly is - I just always wear glasses if I'm not doing something right under my nose) so I'm pretty sure my weaker (left) eye is going along for the ride but never driving much. :P

And yeah, cartoons are great that way! They are both simpler and... I dunno, maybe I'm just trying to rationalise my preferences there but I like to think that they sort of take more thinking than photorealism, figuring out which features to emphasize and so on. Even when we do it subconsciously it's still brainwork...

Reply mitchellbravo, July 24th, 2014, 8:57 am

@Oly-RRR: Oh I can definitely agree with that, with regards to cartooning being more difficult. I'd say photorealism takes more technical skill, but cartooning requires you to reinvent the person and understand how people see things and interpret things in order for them to be recognizable. (To be honest, both skills probably help each other out a bit as well)

That's so weird about your glasses! I wonder why your ma picked to do it that way? But yeah, I'm lucky I have use of my right eye, I'm certain it's helping in its own way- I guess it's the constantly undermined copilot.

Reply Oly-RRR, July 24th, 2014, 11:58 am

@mitchellbravo: Yeah, exactly!

I'm not sure - I think at some point someone told her that it's better for the eyes (though by now I heard that it's worse too except I don't change my glasses often now that my eyesight is more or less the same all the time so last time I got new glasses a different arrangement seemed uncomfortable and I didn't risk it).

Eye doctors used to give me a lot of crap when I was a teenager too - they did small talk, like what I want to do after school yadda yadda and when I told them I wanted to be an illustrator they made horrified faces like the only thing I was allowed to do with my eyesight was folding cardboard into boxes. :P I was actually relieved when I saw how many artists besides me have problems with eyes.

Reply mitchellbravo, July 24th, 2014, 1:18 pm

@Oly-RRR: Now, it might just be because there's so many people who wear glasses and contacts nowadays and there's less of a stigma against it, but it seems to me that nearly every artist I know needs glasses- and in fact, the people I can think of who *don't* need glasses aren't artists :P I think there's something interesting to be said about that!

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