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Reply mitchellbravo, December 30th, 2013, 11:46 pm


If you look carefully, it is true.

Well, folks, 2013 has been a HELL of a fucking year. Two wakes in the space of a month and another several months later, uncle died, grandfather's not doing well, I left my shitter of a job and was unemployed for half a year until I started subbing, I bought my first car, and I really started to realize who are the people in my life I need to let go of and the people who I need to hold onto as tightly as I can.

Hoping 2014 will be a year with a little more good luck and good fortune, and the same to all of you, my dear readers. Over the course of the year, I've made a net gain of 11 fans here on SmackJeeves, and my monthly pageviews and visitors have more than doubled. That really means a lot to me. Between that readership and the thoughtful comments you guys leave, it makes me feel like what I'm doing here isn't just a weird waste of time where I'm hermiting myself away in my bedroom scratching out shit on a piece of paper for no reason.

I updated 60 goddamn times this year. That's a pretty big deal, especially when you consider how many breaks I took and how my shitty mood took away from my ability to accomplish anything for so much of the year. I've learned a lot about art- most importantly, I've learned a good bit of just how much I *don't know* and what I really need to work on. I always value the feedback I receive and I wouldn't be where I am now if you guys didn't give me encouragement and criticism every now and then.

In the coming year, I want to focus particularly on composition, color, and inking. Kind of a broad swathe of topics, I know, but they mostly go hand in hand and I think my art is at a place where I need to work on all of them with about the same fervor if I want to start to see improvement.

I'd like to update at least as often as I did this year, ideally more. I intend to get through at least a chapter and a half. For a little sneak-peek, the gang will be returning to Wallwater for the summer. We'll catch up on Aggie's life with Donny, the Wallwater gang is going to pool their talents in an as-yet unseen way, and then we'll start to see people going their separate ways- for a while, at least. There's lots going on in between all that, of course, and hopefully I'll get beyond that point. Chapters 6 and 7, are, I think, going to be the ideal barometer to base whether you like or dislike Loud Era. Based on my loose scrawl, these chapters will be fairly representative of the tone and narrative style of the comic. But who knows, maybe I'll bonk my head and start writing an entirely different way or something. We'll have to see.

So once again, thank you so much for your continued readership and friendship in this grand year of 2013. I'm going to start off 2014 by displaying the stupendous artwork I received during Secret Santa exchanges this year, as well as the gifts I made for my inspirational recipients. Depending on how things go, I might also throw up some sketches, or maybe some embarassingly crappy old art you guys can slap your knees at.

Look for chapter 6 to resume about mid to late February, though ideally it will come sooner. You will hear from me when I am better able to ascertain this.

Have a happy and safe New Year and surround yourselves with people you love who care about you. I hope to see y'all again real soon. Love you all!


Reply Dranxis, December 31st, 2013, 12:58 am

A really sweet ending to the chapter! Best of luck with your goals for 2014. :) I'm making some similar promises to try and improve my time management with my own comic.

Your art has improved noticeably in even the short time since I started reading Loud Era, so I'm looking forward to watching it develop even further.

Reply mitchellbravo, January 1st, 2014, 7:28 pm

@Dranxis: Thanks so much! I'm so glad you've followed along with me this year :) I'm also really glad I happened upon your comic. Just really one of my absolute favorites. When I get a more comfortable setup I want to read through your archive again :) Good luck to you too!!

Reply Bluezilla, June 3rd, 2014, 1:00 am

What a great ending comment and a lovely chapter. I'm glad to have joined the fan base! But really, I decided on whether i liked Loud Era by like the first chapter. And it's all been positive from there. ;3

Excited that I'm not at all out of chapters yet. yay! :)

Reply mitchellbravo, June 3rd, 2014, 2:39 pm

@Bluezilla: Waaaah thank you!! I'm glad to have you along for the story :) And yes you still have the current chapter! (which sadly is updating slowly but I should have another little batchlet up by the end of the week!!)

Reply Oly-RRR, July 30th, 2014, 9:18 pm


That bit about letting go and holding onto people struck a chord - it's something I've been learning in 2013 too. It's weird, every time I decide I got people remotely figured out they surprise me again - in both bad and good ways.

Reply mitchellbravo, July 30th, 2014, 10:12 pm

@Oly-RRR: Hehehehe between all the art stuff and all the social stuff you and I seem to have an inordinate amount of things in common for two people who I don't think have ever been on the same continent at the same time!! :P There's been a lot of people who I once considered to be part of my closer friends who have made it, even if not intentionally, incredibly clear that I'm not an important figure in their lives, and then a good amount who despite me thinking I didn't play much of a role to them, do sincerely bother to keep in touch with me and reach out with invites and so forth.

I've gotten much better at identifying which people belong to which category, though- as you might have picked up from my hyper-sentimentality, I'm the type to apply the term "friend" liberally and often, and wind up shooting myself in the emotional foot because of it in many cases XD Oh well- here's hoping we continue to get better at dodging the rotten ones! (except for those that make for great stories later, I suppose!)

Reply Oly-RRR, July 30th, 2014, 11:32 pm

@mitchellbravo: Haha, yeah, there's definitely a lot of things in common! :D And yeah, it sucks when you think someone is important for you and they couldn't care less about you. And a lot of people can't say this politely but openly so I ended up spending a lot of time thinking "oh, I'm misreading it, I just can't read people well, they probably don't mean to ignore me, it's some misunderstanding" and keeping in touch with people I should have let go of months ago. I mean sometimes you don't exactly argue but just drift apart slowly but certainly? I'm sure I learned a couple of lessons about walking off instead of just repeatedly getting hurt in 2013 - not as fast as I'd like but still. Whole 2013 was weird in a way that it was a mess but I couldn't even say "I wish I never met those people!" because it helped develop Cop Story, made me somewhat smarter and also stopped me from developing some bad habits. Sometimes it takes meeting someone to know you don't want to become that kind of person.

And yeah, shooting in the emotional foot is what I also do - I am not exactly communicative with people I don't know or don't like (like that woman I hide sketchbooks from) but once I'm getting to know someone this is an accurate description http://gifstumblr.com/images/i-have-just-met-you-and-i-love-you_1273.gif :P

Pff, now I'm thinking how Dug's collar has more intonations than all speech devices I've ever heard (and it shouldn't bug me but it does a bit) but some kids in Cop Story have exactly the same attitude. XD

Reply mitchellbravo, July 31st, 2014, 10:08 am

@Oly-RRR: Yup yup- people don't bother to say anything up front because often it seems you're SO unimportant to them that they haven't even put it into conscious thought just how unimportant you are X| Yeah I'm glad for all the people who've entered and left my life because of the ways it got me to grow as a person- live and learn and stuff, I guess!

LOL NOPE I AM THAT DUG. I was a really reserved kid (as I mentioned a while ago probably beacuse of my eyesight) but among people I liked, I could be absurdly outgoing- now that I'm old enough that I can read people without visual impairment and have enough self confidence to deal with the occasional mortification of committing a social faux pas, I'm friendly and chatty even among strangers and find myself making unexpected acquaintances all over the place (and probably alienating many of them by getting into details that are too personal too quickly XD). Some of it doesn't seem to be anythign I specifically am doing though, and people seem to just *come to me* for these social interactions- when I was in college I was waiting in the lounge of an academic building once and the custodian sat down with me and began discussing, at length, Ru Paul's Drag Race.

Hahahahahahahahhahahaha oh my god no, inaccurately expressive speech devices in programs is a huuuge pet peeve of mine as well XD Like I get not wanting to have everyone in a work to have Stephen Hawking's voice but let's all remember the current limitations of that technology, folks. Hehehehe and now I want to see a scene playing out with the kids, Dug, and Wanker all goofing around in the park somewhere XD

Reply Oly-RRR, July 31st, 2014, 3:37 pm

@mitchellbravo: Haha, I guess this is one of the reasons we have all these conversations - I am also all "lemme tell you all about my characters and random life stuff!" XD

And yeah, they can have different voices and intonations vary (and I suspect get better with new software) but I doubt it'll get to the point of the technology emulating EXTREME SURPRISE and such.

And heheh, now I want to draw that! :D Actually one of the dogs I mentioned before is the dog Jarvis has at home - it's an elderly spaniel called Tony, he's really friendly and calm and between him and therapy dogs Jarvis believes ALL DOGS ARE LIKE THAT and will definitely get bitten at some point.

And I just got an idea for another picture and I already said I should draw more comics less randomness but I don't think I'll be able to get it out of my system unless I draw it. XP

Reply mitchellbravo, July 31st, 2014, 6:44 pm

@Oly-RRR: Hahahahhaa I think you're right about that... our kind manages to find each other XD

I saw a few of the pictures you had of him on your dA, I really like how you can draw dog personalities so well in addition to people ones :D NOOO POOR JARVIS LOL. And Teague would need to be peeking on screen to express disapproval XD

Hahahaha I know that feeling as well! Except for me it's just a need to write it down instead of drawing it. It's much faster for me that way and then years later when I come across the page randomly in the middle of the notebook it's like a special time-traveling script for myself :D

Reply Oly-RRR, July 31st, 2014, 7:33 pm

@mitchellbravo: Teague disapproves of a surprising amount of things (and nearly everything when it comes to Jarvis)! XD I need to draw him happy at least once for a change sometime...

Sometimes writing things down helps too! Not in this case though, I already drew a thumbnail but still want to draw it so this picture should happen soon!

Reply mitchellbravo, July 31st, 2014, 8:42 pm


Now what would make Teague happy? Is there a girl he's keen on? :P

Reply Oly-RRR, July 31st, 2014, 9:28 pm

@mitchellbravo: I am thinking of putting a girl in the picture but right now the biggest source of Teague's happiness can be described by this song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA :P

Reply mitchellbravo, July 31st, 2014, 9:47 pm

@Oly-RRR: LOL. That's probably more inline with his personality isn't it, I guess I was thinking too pure & wholesome XD

Well, as much as teenage boys having crushes on teenage girls can be considered pure and wholesome!!

Reply Oly-RRR, August 1st, 2014, 12:25 am

@mitchellbravo: When it comes to crushes Teague probably has it worse than some of his classmates like Jarvis and Houston who still think that "girls are gross" because by the time they start developing crushes they might understand the world and people in it at least slightly better and Teague gets a sex drive combined with switching from "I am awesome" to "I am ugly and no one will date me" and the urge to separate people into categories. I mean the idea that disabled people are undateable sucks as much as the idea that disabled people should date only among themselves but Teague does think about his classmates in about the same terms the able-bodied kids in his street think about him. :/ It's illogical but not as unusual as it seems at first - I mean it's not surprising when someone becomes disabled later in life like Chance and takes time to figure out how they feel about being a part of group they never were a part of before but some disabled kids do go through the "I will hang only with able-bodied people because they are cooler!" phase which is just like any other awkward growing phase, I guess.

Reply mitchellbravo, August 1st, 2014, 8:51 pm

@Oly-RRR: Awww, Teague's a cutie, despite his salty disposition I'm sure he'll come across someone someday that he finds suitable :P And that makes sense. Just like able-bodied people feel different degrees of tolerance and acceptance for disabled people, that spectrum exists within the community itself as well.

Reply Oly-RRR, August 1st, 2014, 10:15 pm

@mitchellbravo: Yeah, I think things should get easier for Teague when he gets some of this stuff figured out! Or maybe bumps into someone he really likes from the start (right now he just argues with everyone he meets).

Reply mitchellbravo, August 2nd, 2014, 1:03 am

@Oly-RRR: I'd hope so! I was going to say he's my favorite but then I thought about Jarvis and Houston and realized I can't pick a favorite even within the subset of just "the kids." XD

Reply Oly-RRR, August 2nd, 2014, 1:50 am

@mitchellbravo: Aww, I'm so glad someone besides me feels this way about them! I'm all "I gotta draw you more- no I gotta draw you more- okay, I gotta draw you all more!" :D

Reply mitchellbravo, August 2nd, 2014, 1:53 am

@Oly-RRR: Honestly I think I like your characters as much as I like mine which is a really weird thing to say probably but it's true?? Like they're each so vibrant and fun to see pictures of and talk about :D

Reply Oly-RRR, August 2nd, 2014, 3:02 pm

@mitchellbravo: D'aww, no, I feel similarly - I guess it has something to do with how we write them all, like they are all flawed but have their good sides and are just fun to watch? :D

Reply mitchellbravo, August 3rd, 2014, 11:13 am

@Oly-RRR: I think that must be it! That's what makes all this fun for me, really. I mean I like drawing but if I wasn't attached to my characters the drawing would seem purposeless :)

Reply Oly-RRR, August 3rd, 2014, 12:32 pm

@mitchellbravo: Yeah, I know that feeling! I mean even without to comparing webcomics to shows (since show characters don't fully belong to one single writer in the way webcomic characters do) - I like many webcomics but Loud Era might be the only one I know where writing feels really personal without getting annoying sort of weepy. I mean you get comics that are great but you can see the writer sees characters more as plot tools than anything else (which is a professional attitude but not one for me) and then there are comics where the writer finds every sneeze of their character VERY IMPORTANT (and it gets annoying sooner or later) and you got it just right in my personal opinion. I fail at putting it in nice enough words but there we go. :]

Reply mitchellbravo, August 3rd, 2014, 2:46 pm

@Oly-RRR: Awwwwww thanks!! :) I know what you mean- it's like a lot of writers are either very clinical about their characters or love them so much that they think you're gonna want to know their blood type and what score they got on their SATs. Besides the premise being unique that's what really appeals about Cop Story to me. I think you and I both have a pretty good balance of really being invested in our characters, but not just crowding the comic with stuff that would alienate readers XD I mean obviously there's comics that find success on the "characters as plot tools" model because that appeals to a lot of people, but I like finding stories where it's more like "plots as character tools" :P

It probably narrows my breadth of audience to some extent because I've had a few reviewers mention that I have so many characters they feel they are underdeveloped as a result and that the story just seems too shallow for that reason, but then I've had other reviewers who *do* feel a personal relatability with the characters sooooo I figure I'm just gonna keep on doing my best writing about all of them and hope that more of that second category of reader filters in as time goes on :P

Reply Oly-RRR, August 3rd, 2014, 5:08 pm

@mitchellbravo: Yeah, that's a good way to describe it! I end up reading some comics in both categories but I notice that with the technical ones I end up thinking more about technical sides of building the plot (and realising that anyone I get attached to will get hurt a-la Tarantino films) and with the mushy ones I end up thinking "ohh, not another panel emphasizing how important and complicated the character's feelings are, can we move on here?" (and it's really hard to keep this without particular examples haha) but with Loud Era I feel like I'm just getting to know them, almost like real people. :]

And yup! There's this unreasonable expectation of INSTANT GRATIFICATION in a lot of webcomic readers, like if the first page doesn't catch them they don't look further, and I notice that particularly on Smackjeeves nearly all comics I like a lot get overlooked (I just realised "overlooked" sounds a bit funny in the context because "underlooked" would make more sense even though it's not a real word) - I mean I know the generic masses go for buttsex manga (I guess that makes Choseph our way to INSTANT FAME XD) but even counting that in the numbers seem low.

Also I can never figure out how Smackjeeves' Similar Comics algorithm works - it seems to be something to do with fans and genres? I found a comic with great art yesterday http://rangerpugsly.smackjeeves.com/ that had LITERALLY NO COMMENTS (there's only 11 pages there now but still) so I commented for a bit and it got Loud Era banner in Similar Comics right after that. :D I wish there was some way to tweak it manually since I don't think most stuff I get in that window for Cop Story has much to do with what I'm trying to do but I guess some people would abuse this option if they had it. :/

So yeah, all that's left is to keep drawing and hope your kind of reader will find it! :D

Reply mitchellbravo, August 3rd, 2014, 5:29 pm

@Oly-RRR: Aaaaaw thanks!! :) :)

Honest, the whole "sell your comic by the first page" thing is why I went back and redid the beginning of my comic- but even then, the story I'm telling isn't the kind where I can like start off in the middle of this like GRIPPING FLASHY BOMBASTIC SCENE so I think the way it is now is good enough. But yeah a lot of my favorites there are the same way! Comics that are well written and pretty well drawn but because they aren't about like zombies or ninjas or pokemon or objectified gay people nobody seeks them out and finds them here. I mean, the number of SJ fans isn't an indicator of popularity entirely, because I know I probably have a good chunk of my readership coming from people who aren't fans or even SmackJeeves members(and my fan count is at 63 but at least 20 of those are people who haven't been to the site in years, and the remaining 2/3rds i have no idea how many even follow anymore). It's weird how the pandering/porny comics tend to generate the most listed fans- I'd think people would more want to keep those their secret guilty pleasures as opposed to having them all visible in their profiles XD

Ohmygod Choseph is going to be our IN to that desired niche audience XD

Oh yeah the similar comics is just based off of the comics your fans also like. So it doesn't always make sense (in fact it often doesn't, lol). Like, if you only had one fan, all of your "similar comics" would just be other comics that that person likes. If you have a few fans that all like the same other comic, that one will be more likely to show up in your "similar" column.

Really it would be renamed as "Readers who favorite this also favorited-" like online shopping sites do. I'll have to check out Ranger Pugsly!! Lol especially now that it's ~*SIMILAR TO MIIINE*~ XD

I think a few of the people who are fans of my comic haven't actually read it, but just talked to me on the forums sometimes so they followed my comic as like a friendship-link thing? Either way as a result most of the comics in my "similar" column are comics done by other "high-profile" forum-goers. And like the secret santa one from three years ago, Loud Era definitely is very similar to a secret santa collab XD

The idea i guess is that as you get more fans, the "similar comics" list will start to straighten itself out and actually make sense- but that's not always the case even with other very popular comics. Eh. It's one of those things I'd revamp a little bit if I was in charge of directing the operating side of the site- maybe have the "People who liked this also liked" but also have maybe like a weighted tagging system so that comics with similar tags/tag values could appear there and make more sense in terms of content.

I'm often on the lookout for unsung gems like that though, where they have *NO FANS* or reactions or anything but the comic is still good. I remember when I'd just started how even just a simple comment like "Nice page!" would send me reeling with joy, so I try to give that back to artists who seem to be in a similar spot. unfortunately a lot of the comics I start following from early in their "life stage" seem to get abandoned and it's like I get so excited about the premise and the art only for the creator to have to leave it after a few weeks or months :/

Reply Oly-RRR, August 3rd, 2014, 10:07 pm

@mitchellbravo: Yeah, I understand not keeping really outdated stuff as the first page but like you said, it depends on pacing and such so it's impossible to have something that'll grip everyone. But I kind of look at it the other way anyway - I tend to like the first page of a lot of things but can't follow all of it in the long run if it has some pattern that annoys me.

And yeah, I know not everyone reading stuff on SJ is registered here - I used to try to direct everyone to the site but at some point gave up, realised that I don't like posting cropped pages with a link and just want people to read the bloody comic and made a tumblr mirror. XP

Ooh, that makes sense! Yeah, tags would be super-helpful! I click on "new comics" and such from time to time and find really nice stuff but generally I feel that there's a lot of comics lurking out there that I just don't see because there's no system and a lot of clutter.

But yeah, I feel the same way! Comments are great in general even when you don't talk like we talk. One of the things that prompted me to start catching up on SJ stuff was that I always complain about how much time comics take and it's hard to get people to read them, I mean it's faster to read than a novel, and it just felt sort of hypocritical to be bitching about that when I haven't read webcomics for a couple of months.

Though I started to read something that looked like a slice-of-life story but every time I stumble on other people's comments on some pages they seem to expect BUTTSEX AHOY but I don't see any signs (but I'm not well-versed there so maybe I don't know the signs?) so I'm not sure if it's just a comic with a few weird comments or it is there so it adds an element of DANGER to reading - kind of like walking in a tunnel wondering if the light ahead is the exit or a train going in your direction. :D

Also I enjoy well drawn stuff but I'm generally laid-back about art so older pages don't stop me from enjoying stories. I dunno, it irks me when some artist is obviously skilled but can't be arsed to draw anything besides talking heads on abstract backgrounds but when someone is actively learning I can only admire that - we all started somewhere and I've been told it's a constant thing anyway and 50-year-old artist cringe at how they used to draw when they were 40 (it sounds kind of depressing at first but if you look at it another way it's good).

And yeah, comics are a hard thing to stick at. D: I have a feeling I'd have more readers if I didn't start a new project every few years but 1) I am finally AN OLD PERSON so I expect my interests and views will change less 2) Cop Story is sort of built to include a lot of themes and people so I doubt I'll get tired of that soon.

Reply mitchellbravo, August 3rd, 2014, 11:07 pm

@Oly-RRR: That's a good point. There's been more than a few comics even just here on SmackJeeves that I liked the start of but then it went in a direction where I was kinda like "mehhhhh :/" Usually it's not like "Holy shit what the fuck, not going to read this ever again" type stuff but like you said, a shift that seems indicative of a pattern I won't enjoy following anymore. (I probalby ought to clear out some of my favorites list, just in the interest of being honest, but who knows if I'll ever get around to that)

I feel that way too! A weird thing I've started doing is that when my fan count changes, I go to the main SJ page and search by # of fans, and then zip down the dropdown menu until I find where my comic is. Then I check other comics that have around the same number of fans I have. I've found a few good comics that way- I think I might even have found Cop Story that way, come to think of it! I mean I find a lot of stuff that's been abandoned, too, but it's easy enough to tell what's been totally dropped and what's still going.

Right?? I mean I know even recently there's been times where I busted my butt over a page and although I was happy for completing it, I felt *WAY* more vindicated when someone would leave a comment vs. if it just went unacknowledged. Yeah I think I tend to do the same thing re: that hypocrisy. I know I have a bunch of comics bookmarked that I just never get around to (omfg including a comic I signed up to write a review for BACK IN APRIL. I LITERALLY AM BAD AND NOT GOOD :( ). I guess part of my problem is just getting disappointed so many times at comics I really like just getting abandoned. But it's just something that comes with the territory, I gotta just swab some rubbing alcohol over it and get used to it, I guess.

LMAO ISN'T THAT TERRIFYING THOUGH??? I know EXACTLY what you mean and the only reason I possibly can think of to explain the phenomenon is that either the creator already has an existing buttsex pirates story OR is channeling many of their readers from another existing site like tumblr or deviantart where they're known for said buttsex. But yeah when you just come up to it like that and it comes literally out of nowhere it's a bit disconcerting, like if you showed up to a party and everyone else was wearing blue BUT NOT SAYING WHY and just carrying on like normal XD Lmao and now by the way I picture the clandestine buttsex committee on a secret midnight train, Murder on the Orient XXXpress???

Same, same! I meant more like if a RECENT page has eye-bleed art, or if the comic is like done in sprites or Poser because i have yet to see something in EITHER of those forms that was readable in any sense of the term. If a comic starts off having bad art and gets to having like, pretty strong art, that's usually a selling point to me because it indicates that the creator is dedicated to their craft enough to bother honing it which makes me think they'll stick around to see the story at least most of the way through (y'know, until they get married or have a baby or join the military or something like that!)

I think it's something you'll be able to stick with because like you said you have so many layers and themes to be working with. It's honestly why I've been able to stick with Loud Era for like the 5 years I've been at it. If I had to narrow the focus even just down to four characters I don't think I would have made it this far. I'm well aware that many of the characters may seem tenuously connected to THE GREATER PLOT but to me if I'm having this much fun writing them, there must be *SOMEONE* out there who enjoys reading about them since I think I have a level of writership at least a few rungs above your average fanfiction.net author :P It's just so amazing how if I run out of places to take one character for the time being, I can ruminate on another character for a while and after a bit of jumping around eventually the first character's story will become not only evident, but decidedly apparent and obvious.

Reply Oly-RRR, August 4th, 2014, 1:02 am

@mitchellbravo: Yeah, exactly - sometimes I just continue following from time to time but whatever annoys me keeps occurring over and over and annoying me again and again.

Ooh, I'll try the dropdown menu way (but probably will catch up on stuff I already follow first, sometimes I add anything that I want to look at again at some point because my browser bookmarks are a mess so I probably should brush it up too)!

I think I mostly find it hard to follow comics that update on tumblr or standalone sites - I read nearly everything that ends up in my DA inbox and once I started to come to SJ regularly it got easier to keep up with it too but with standalone sites I seem to read everything only in big chunks and with tumblr I just miss stuff because I stay away from the site for larger part of the week for the sake of my sanity (I mean no, it's great to gather material and such but I AM NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO DO IT EVERY DAY).

Yeah, now that I think of it I haven't seen anything good done in sprites or Poser or uhh, that program that uses models from Valve games either.

Haha, that pirate buttsex comic begins to seem like a weird social experiment. XD I mean I swear it has mundane stuff like two dudes discussing stuff over lunch and suddenly there's a comment along the lines of "omg they r so cute together :3" and I BEGIN TO SUSPECT I'M MISSING SOMETHING because I don't get any particular emotions over that?? And it's kind of slow-paced but I expect if they were about to get at it they'd do it by the end of Chapter 2 at least but again, maybe I don't get it and it's kind of like BBC period dramas where people in suits and big dresses sit in posh houses in the countryside and solemnly eye-fuck each other all season while drinking tea? Anyway, it seems like I could be reading better stuff but I do it over lunch and I'm genuinely curious at this point. :D

Ahaha, oh gosh, and I'm actually considering writing a train robbery at some point because it's one of the big tropes for UK cop shows! LET'S JUST SAY THIS IS NOT HOW I ENVISIONED IT XD

And yeaah, a webcomic is kind of like an imaginary child that is permanently a toddler or like Donny. And when you put it on top of a chair so it can tell a nursery rhyme in front of all the guests it burps, farts and runs off and you still love the bugger. :D So I can't blame people too much for giving up on it all when they GET A LIFE (though if I ever get a life I'd like to find a way to keep doing it somehow).

Yeah, definitely, that's the fun of big casts! And I guess when people advise against them they are sort of expecting fanfiction.net level but with writing once you're doing stuff more consciously you can do pretty much anything you want depending on what you want. :D Besides most rules are tailored mostly for standalone stuff and usually judging by whatever seems most successful at the point.

Reply mitchellbravo, August 4th, 2014, 11:35 am

@Oly-RRR: You just reminded me I have a whoooole slew of even more comics bookmarked to be read on my old busted computer :'( I still have to go back and move everything off of it but honestly I liked that computer so much, and there's like 5 years of almost constant use on it so all of those hidden-in-the-pantry files like bookmarks are going to be a horrible pain to sort through. I'd literally need to set aside multiple days to do it, it seems.

I do the same with the standalone sites! A few of my favorites of friends of mine from some other forums I keep bookmarked in an easily visible place so I'm more likely to remember to check them, but it doesn't always remind me. I also have found that there's some comics I *must* check each day, but others I'll wait a while and then catch up with them. Certain writing styles lend to a comic being more enjoyable one way or the other it would seem. Lmao no omg I am really impressed by people who can tumbl every day and come away from it without their brain pressing out of their ears like playdoh. Plus I've found most comic artists on tumblr haven't really figured out a good way to display their stuff- I know that there is a comic theme available but not everyone uses it and it makes reading an archive, especially a long one, a tremendous pain.

Omg now I kind of want to know what the comic in question is- send me a PM with the link!! XD I have some theories based off comics I have glanced over lately and I wonder if it's one of the same. Lmao at the BBC period drama description XD I guess it's one of those things where if you speak the proverbial language you know what signs to look out for, like a metal detector but for comic schlongs.


Hahahaha yeah exactly, it's a lot to work on, and I think we've discussed before how many people "get into it" without realizing just how much work goes into the process and all of the other contributing factors like getting discouraged and disappointed and stuff even if the work itself isn't what overwhelms the person. Lmao, just last night I was thinking about how I might be going back to school and stuff and like what if I got a 40-hour-a-week job and started panicking that I'd have to not work on my comic anymore, or that I'd only be able to do like a page every month. It got me SO UPSET that I actually had to do the math in my head to figure out (Hours in the week) - (Hours needed for sleeping) - (Hours spent at work) and calm myself down to realize that's still well over 50 hours left in the week's awake time XP And calm myself further that if I had a job that wasn't a soul-eating hellscape like my old job, I wouldn't get home from work and need to decompress for hours and then go to bed after drinking myself to sleep so I'd actually have room to get things done!!! What a concept- adulthood????

I think you're right. I can understand giving that advice when you're not sure of the writing capability level of the creator, because it calls to mind people who just generate shovelfuls and shovelfuls of characters but never actually get to the story, and the characters are like randomized collections of tropes that aren't interesting to anyone but the author. Yeah you're right too in that a lot of it is aimed at people who, even if it's a long-form thing their working on, "long form" in this case means like "length of one graphic novel" or one general story-arc and not something intended to be ongoing.

Reply Oly-RRR, August 4th, 2014, 7:22 pm

@mitchellbravo: Oh man old computers. I still have a couple of fonts to take off my old computer and I keep putting it off - I thought I took everything I needed but a couple of fonts scream abuse at me every time I open files with them in PS and it's not a big issue but the easiest way to fix it would be just putting those fonts on the new computer.

Also you can just back up bookmarks but if you're using Firefox it's stupid - you can add old bookmarks to new ones, you can only save the old ones and REPLACE the new ones with it. I dunno, maybe the new versions of Firefox fixed this because they kept offering to sync all my devices after the update but syncing everything is one of those things I dislike about modern software - one thing I don't need is all my bookmarks being kept in some cloud service online or something.

And yeaaah, some tumblr themes are weird.

Awww, I sometimes do time calculation like that too. In reality you never know exactly but generally if your job and situation in general are not crappy you can fit something in, if it wears you down it's harder. Adulthood is weird. D: But there's still a few upsides over childhood.

I just slept for two hours because mum returned and we did stuff and I'm still tired after the peak of the heatwave so now I'm up and I probably won't fall asleep soon but dammit, that could be two hours of inking. XP

Reply mitchellbravo, August 4th, 2014, 9:02 pm

@Oly-RRR: I'll have to look into backing up the bookmarks!! I've been using Google Chrome for a few years now but I think the bulk of my bookmarks on that comp are actually from YEARS ago on Internet Explorer D: Yeah I'm very skeptical about cloud services for some reason ._. I'm sure it's just me being some kind of Luddite but I prefer having a physical copy of something if at all possible, or if not then having the relevant files actually stored on my device, you know? Realistically there's more a chance of me losing my paper books/laptop & stuff in a fire than the whole CLOUD THING suddenly disappearing but I guess it's just a peace of mind thing that will no longer exist for the generations from this point out.

Yeah exactly. I'm just hoping I can find something to do with myself to pay the bills efficiently and pass the time productively. There may come a time in the future where I make more than a few cents a month in advertising off my comic but that day is pretty far away so unfortunately I've gotta find something else to bring home the bacon.

Awwww noooo!! The heat is persisting still?? :( Hahahaha I haaate when physical needs get in the way of comic stuff!!! I was working up a page last night and doing pretty darn good except I had some yucky wine I was watering down with Coca Cola so I got like three panels in, BECAME DRAMATICALLY EXHAUSTED, and then when I lied down in bed the caffeine kicked in and the "HOURS OF YOUR LIFE, YOU OWN'T BE ABLE TO WORK ON YOUR COMIC ANYMORE" panic started descending upon me XD

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