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Reply mitchellbravo, April 24th, 2014, 9:57 pm

Helloooooooo there. So glad I managed to get the page up before midnight today, since today would be Joseph's 114th "birthday." And look! He's even on this very page! Which is good because I wasn't going to make him his own splash page just for his fictional birthday. (Not this year, anyway.)

Poor Tony still with a busted nose months after the fact. I promise next scene he's in it'll be mostly healed.

Next few pages should be up over the next few days. The only thing I need to do is dibble those goddamn bill postings from the last panel into the backgrounds of the other pages.

Lotta wonky perspective & scaling on this page & the rest as well, please pardon it cuz I was just kind of running with it.

Despite my foot-draggin I actually had a really good time working on these pages. I think you'll see why? I hope?

Anyhow, hope to see y'all soon.


Reply Oly-RRR, July 31st, 2014, 7:25 pm

Your backgrounds and colours keep getting better and better, seriously! And I had a lot of fun looking at the posters and such - I guess I just like details like that. I mostly put stupid posters in Cop Story but most of them end up behind characters and such... which is probably for the best in my case. XD

Reply mitchellbravo, July 31st, 2014, 8:40 pm

@Oly-RRR: Aaaah thanks :') It was remarkable how once I got my hands on the right literature, it really helped everything "click" for me with regard to color. I mean a lot of the technique itself remains to be seen but I think the color choices in general have improved a lot. I still have a long way to go re: contrast, but that can often be squivvied on the computer after the fact.

Hahahaha I loooove the Cop Story posters XD It's sad a bit how we work hard on things like that only for them to get hidden anyway, but like you said, sometimes it's for the best.

My favorites behind Choseph (ummmm I'm going to leave that typo, I guess that's Chance & Joseph's clandestine buttsex son) are "Please Think Twice BEFORE You Make BREAD" and "LOST MULE. GRAY. SKINNY. ABOUT 4FT."

Reply Oly-RRR, July 31st, 2014, 9:20 pm

@mitchellbravo: Pffffftt hahaha Choseph!!! I bet he also MYSTERIOUSLY INHERITED BOTH THEIR IMPAIRMENTS DESPITE NEITHER OF THEM BEING GENETIC XD ...and I just thought I'd spend a day without laughing at random times. :D

Is the bread poster a real thing? The one with a sad guy urging me to START MY GARDEN TODAY seems like a real war effort kind of poster but I'm a bit lost at the bread one's message! Also war effort?

Cop Story posters are a combination of ACTUAL UNFORTUNATE POSTERS, funny phrases I picked up somewhere and a mix of both. Like the one Chance is running past http://copstory.smackjeeves.com/comics/1657467/1-1-4/ actually says "CATCHING CRIMINALS AND LOCKING THEM UP in your community" and then there are posters in the school which are just evil... Though disability themes just get a lot of posters that seem almost purposefully bad, like I've seen "Every Welsh Person Is The Same" which can be read in AT LEAST two ways (especially if displayed in a part of the UK that's NOT Wales) and "I Succeeded Because My Coach Pushed Me" which seems like an evil pun considering that the person on the poster is in a wheelchair. :P

Reply mitchellbravo, July 31st, 2014, 9:40 pm

@Oly-RRR: Ohmygod I'm now laughing way too hard at too many different things AND EVERYONE'S GONE TO BED THIS IS JUST NO GOOD XD

Well, you know what this means. I'm going to have to draw "Choseph." Lmao, now I'm picturing the poor kid being born "normal" and then both of their accidents/incidents rehappening to him XD

LOL. The Garden one is based off of real posters, since if you grow your own food, there's more to be sent to the troops as well as more money to be spent on them. The bread one is made up, at least if I remember correctly, but I noticed there's a lot of posters that urge citizens to, if not right-out ration their foods, avoid using more of certain very useful products, like flour, than they need to. So think twice before baking bread!!! Someone else needs that flour!!!

Here's a favorite of mine- http://prints.encore-editions.com/0/500/corn-the-food-of-the-nation-serve-some-way-every-m eal-appetizing-nourishing-economical-lloyd-harrison-harrison-landauer-inc-baltimore.jpg Something about the unemotional directness as well as the expression on the woman's face is so perfect to me.

NOOO NOOOOO LOL I'M LAUGHING SO HARD AT THE WELSH PERSON POSTER LMAO. And the coach one noooooo does no one think twice when producing these things XD XD XD Or are they ordinary folks like you, forced to make terrifying anthropomorphic brains for kids??

The one you linked is great, I love mixed-caps posters because of how my mind process the tone when it goes back to regular capitalization. I feel the same way when I see like Daily Mail and other "interesting source" headlines XD I went back to your other pages- what's the top of this orange one http://copstory.smackjeeves.com/comics/1721227/1-1-6/ ? I love though all the gently admonishing posters encouraging anti-theft and personal well-being and then there's just big-boobed lady there to remind you that if you've already been robbed or beaten, at least you still have your sex drive. XD

The graffiti on this one http://copstory.smackjeeves.com/comics/1794388/1-1-13/ also makes me laugh because it's like "TWATS Found, hide and seek game over."

Any significance behind that license plate #, while we're looking at that page?

Reply Oly-RRR, August 1st, 2014, 12:03 am

@mitchellbravo: Hahaha I have a feeling we'll end up with some surreal inside joke art happening because for the past two days I've been thinking of drawing our characters with the same names meeting each other - so far I thought only of two Eddies and two Donnies but maybe I'll think of someone else along the way! :D

And ah, I thought the bread one had something to do with rationing but I wasn't sure! And yeah, that lady is very SRS BSNS about her corn. XD

Speaking of posters I was looking up British WWII posters at some point and realised that some of them can work as motivational posters for webcomic artists... No offence to any German webcomic creators but especially this one - http://33.media.tumblr.com/a317268118a68a3ecae8f31b3e091bf2/tumblr_n149qkwnuw1qlgpeno5_500 .jpg

I have a feeling that at least one person in the chain of people working on those disability posters has a very literal mind. XD Though sometimes people responsible for art side can mess up too - like maybe that coach poster was supposed to have ANY picture of a disabled person and the first one they found happened to be one with a wheelchair. A few years ago local press made a lot of noise when around some big WWII anniversary there were posters along the lines of congratulations on victory with a picture of a tank put around the city AND WHOEVER PHOTOSHOPPED THAT TANK IN HAPPENED TO CHOOSE A GERMAN MODEL. XP

Oh gosh, I'd never read Daily Mail for real but it does make an awesome source of story ideas sometimes. XD And the orange poster is a "good" one, I need to put it someplace else since a filing cabinet got moved to that wall later. It goes "HELP US HELP YOU help yourselves TO PROTECT YOURSELF from burglaries" :D

Hahaha, I never thought of the lady in that context (though it's great) since the posters are stuff they HAVE to put up and the lady is them trying to "pretty up" the workplace. XD I'm sure at least 90% of cops in that CID are of the opinion that "if an attractive naked woman is a negative image then what the hell is a positive one??" XP

The license plate is random (though I need to remember to look up Nutter's plate next time I draw the car) but the graffiti was fun to draw - can't even stop vandals from defacing the front of their station... :P There is also "penis" and "cock" written somewhere around the CID, what can I say, someone must have looked in their pants and hurried to share their joyful discovery with the rest of the world (actually I know the person responsible, I just wonder if it's a spoiler). :D

Reply mitchellbravo, August 1st, 2014, 8:45 pm

@Oly-RRR: AAAH YAY!!! XD I think that'd be funny to have the two sets of Donnies and Eddies done in each of our styles. And poor mutant Choseph has to happen at some point, maybe I'll make that a Halloween thing XP

Oh that is a good one!!! I had some weird motivational posters I printed out for myself in college- I had a weird Lenin one that I thought was pretty funny but I can't remember the text, and I had a Theodore Roosevelt that was just him looking serious and the text was "DRAW A BACKGROUND. SERIOUSLY YOU DON'T EVEN DRAW THAT MUCH."

NOOO THE GERMAN TANK LOL. You just reminded me of this site http://www.psdisasters.com/ which is sometimes hit or miss but the times it hits are just TERRIBLE. Hahahahahahhahaaha I love the absurd amount of repetition in that poster, it's brilliant!! I'm not sure if the ping-pong of the language makes it less or MORE trustworthy XD

Lady pictures are ALWAYS welcome! Well, some of the ones where they're staring into your soul are a little creepy but if it's gonna help some dude do his job better, who am I to judge? XP

Hahaha I know who the vandal is! It's clearly Donny from my comic, escaped to the U.K. sometime post-war to continue his Guinness Book of World Records goal as the world's only 110+ year old petty criminal!

Reply Oly-RRR, August 1st, 2014, 10:09 pm

@mitchellbravo: Yesss! :D I keep meaning to figure out some short about Cop Story Donny but he's a relatively new character so I just have vague ideas floating in my head. Also Donny was the final proof that no matter what the IQ of characters I write is at least half of them will end up total assholes. XP

Haha, as someone who grew up in post-Soviet Russia I can tell you that LITERALLY ANYTHING ABOUT LENIN IS FUNNY (y'know, besides the fact that he started all this mess in an already troubled country). There was an insane amount of statues of him made during the USSR years (and most of them are still standing just because no one bothers) and because there was so many a lot of them were crappy so he often didn't have any -specific- features, just a bald dude with one hand raised and a cap in the other with a bunch of pigeons pooping all over his stone/metal head. It's kind of like a real life meme except some people still take it seriously, unfortunately. :P

Teddy Roosevelt can't advice no wrong. :D Speaking of that I found this artist on DA who draws crazy pictures with US presidents riding stuff, I feel the need to share - http://sharpwriter.deviantart.com/gallery/

And gosh, yeah, that site is fun - I mean sometimes it's just graphic designers nitpicking but some of that stuff can be great! I saw tag "bobble-head" and felt a bit sad - this is what neighbourhood kids call Teague and it gets to him (it's probably not very noticeable with my cartoon style and everything but he isn't exactly big in the shoulder department).

Hahaha oh Donny, now that's dedication AND a worthy cause! :D

Reply mitchellbravo, August 2nd, 2014, 1:12 am

@Oly-RRR: Have you uploaded a picture of your Donny anywhere? Because right now I'm just picturing him as my Donny but with a neater haircut XD

Almost everything I know about Russia I learned from a History of the Soviet Union course I took in college, and one of the things that has stuck out in my mind was our professor talking about how at like the height I guess of Lenin-mania there'd sometimes be people who'd be master artists for very specific pieces of Lenin, like there were people who would specialize in only sculpting his ear and another for his chin. Judging by what you've mentioned of the statues I'm guessing the specialists were few and far between XD That was probably one of my favorite classes I took in college just because the professor was so chill and included tons of personal anecdotes from his childhood.

Have you lived there the whole time or did you live in the UK for a while? I might just be missing something but your way of typing is so distinctly British I'd be really surprised if you hadn't spent considerable time there :P

OMG HE'S THE ONE THAT DID THE BILL CLINTON ACTION-MOVIE LOOKING PICTURE! There was a point in time where I toyed with making that my laptop background but then I think I just forgot about it.

Awww Teague :( We just need to do some kind of a transference, Joseph has more upper-body bulk than is of any use to him :P Too bad you can't just transplant ENTIRE BODY BUILDS. And the fact that they're a century apart and... you know... comic characters.

Reply Oly-RRR, August 2nd, 2014, 2:36 am

@mitchellbravo: Sketchdumps ahoy! Donny is the blond and annoying one -
He has a relatively in-depth bio on charahub (linked in the dump description) but I can never decide if I want to keep ALL THE SPOILERS or none of them there so it has spoilers lurking here and there (and a lot of outdated references and such).

Hahaha, I heard about those specific Lenin parts sculptors too! Too bad according to the official statements there was "no sex in the USSR", would be fun if there was some unfortunate bugger that was an expert on Lenin's crotch. :D

Surprise! :D I lived in Russia all my life so far (man, I kind of hope it changes one day but I'm not exactly working towards it yet). I guess I've just been watching a lot of British shows for a long time. Oh, and English that gets taught in schools here is usually British English but that's a bit funny because when I was a teenager I was all "Look at America! America is huge! Britain is tiny! Wouldn't it make more sense to learn the version of the language more people use?" and kept trying to use American slang and such to the annoyance of my high school teacher and then at some point I realised my comic was going to be set in the UK and it was like "welp, better get used to using extra letter when spelling again..." For some reason I never had any lasting ideas for a story set in Russia, both because I really like English language (in any version of it though British insults are just great), enjoy looking up settings and putting Cop Story cast in Russia would make it EVEN MORE depressing, kind of like setting it back in time. :/ I do want to add some Russian character just so I can make them something other than stereotypical fictional Russians and come up with some stupid gag like filling their bubbles with actual Cyrillic. :D

Haha, yeah, those pictures look like they were meant to be computer backgrounds - just so anyone who sees your computer can ask what the hell is going on there.

Pff, when you said about transplanting entire body builds I remembered about another unfinished silly non-proper-comic thing I have is this meme where you draw different aspects of character's life and there's something about 3 wishes and the picture that will go with it is basically Teague with a BODYBUILDER BODY, a few girls a-la that CID poster hanging on his arm and he's shooting a crowd of stick figures labelled "stupid ppl". Another thing I need to finish one day. :D He's likely to grow out of that someday though but you know, teenagers and all...

Reply mitchellbravo, August 2nd, 2014, 9:36 am

@Oly-RRR: Aahhh there he is!! The pool one cracks me up XD I'll keep myself spoiler free for now so I won't go to the description, that way I can enjoy it when it comes into the story :D

LMAO. Now that would just look GREAT on a resume XD

Wooooowwwww! Hahaha I really would not have guessed! I've never heard of anyone CHOOSING to use American slang over British before, I guess because mostly what I see around here online is kids pretending to be British and using that slang instead because it's SO COOL AND UNIQUE :D I can't judge too much, really, in my young teen years my friends and I would spontaneously put on British accents- I guess it's just one of those things that sounds really cool if you're not in the demographic it normally belongs to :P

That'd be neat to add for a character and would be a nice extra inside thing for your readers who can read Russian :P I wonder where in the story you'd decide to place them, whether they'd be involved with the cops or the kids more.

AWWWWW TEAGUE XD I'll look forward to that one as well :D Is it weird that I always like reading when other people do those memes but I never want to take the time to do any of them myself? It probably comes back to me never drawing anything outside of the actual comic, I guess X(

Reply Oly-RRR, August 2nd, 2014, 1:57 pm

@mitchellbravo: Yeah, those two guys just constantly spoil good moments for each other, worst case of sibling rivalry I can think of! :D

And yeah, accents are fun! I always enjoy when in shows I can guess at characters' background by their accents. Too bad it's impossible to do in comics - I mean I plan to sometimes just mention accents but spelling them out would be kind of forced in most cases. Though I've been reading Irvine Welsh and he just writes ENTIRE BOOKS in Scottish dialect but I don't think I'd be able to pull it off well.

Re: Russian character - I'm leaning to the kids both because I want to avoid the badass mafia stereotype and because nearly anyone with a seriously disabled family member wants to move out of the country for a bunch of reasons and I kind of want to talk about that in the comic without having to make the entire comic a GRIM NIGHTMARE OF UNACCESIBILITY but I dunno, maybe I'll do both!

Actually I really admire how you stick to drawing the comic! I know I should draw comics more but I keep getting distracted and drawing something else a lot.

Reply mitchellbravo, August 2nd, 2014, 2:16 pm

@Oly-RRR: Yeah I know what you mean! I like the Mark Twain method of spelling out accents phonetically but like you said sometimes it feels over-the-top and it's also something that can be offputting to readers for various reasons.

I think that'd be a really neat thing to deal with in your story! I'm sure you'd find a way to work it in that would be enlightening without being like too depressing to read about.

I think I'd feel better about working just on the comic if I was able to do it more regularly and consistently. I feel like I have very little to show for the number of years I've been working on it, you know? :( Eh. I can't really guilt trip myself over it and just need to focus on doing what i can.

Reply Oly-RRR, August 2nd, 2014, 3:06 pm

@mitchellbravo: Eh, I think just doing what you can is the main thing! I mean I can't speak for everyone and I'm sure that some people updating regularly are happy but I also know that it turned into a chore for others, not an entirely unpleasant chore but still, and I think staying enthusiastic about your project is more important, though of course it's a decision everyone makes for themselves.

Reply mitchellbravo, August 3rd, 2014, 11:17 am

@Oly-RRR: Exactly! That's a big reason why I dropped bothering with any sort of weekly-based schedule. First of all because no matter what, I couldn't keep up with it or would be able to for a while but then would have to stop. But more importantly because it made working on the comic feel about as enjoyable as doing taxes or paying bills. Some people are motivated by the deadlines they set, but in my case the "dead" in deadline seems to take precedent :P

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