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Reply mitchellbravo, October 10th, 2014, 8:48 pm

I kind of hate how this page turned out, like, a lot. :/ Lot of little things where I'm like that's wrong, that's off, that isn't even close, etc.

However! Can you believe this is already page 36 of the chapter? I feel like I just started it last month! I guess because it takes place in late July/August, which literally was almost last month. I should have been a lot further along though, but things didn't quite work out as planned. This is going to be the second longest chapter, with the prom chapter still holding on to its title as longest shit ever.

13 Links for 13 Updates, 11/13

Theia Mania by Li Österberg

I know I keep "selling" these things by mentioning how much I normally wouldn't like the thing in question, which is probably really counterintuitive? Anyway, while I had passing interest in Greek mythology in middle and high school, aside from the Disney Hercules movie I was never really a huge fan or particularly interested in the topic, as I think it falls, to me, under the fantasy genre which is generally outside my area of interest. However, Theia Mania manages to appeal to a spoilsport like myself, and based on the amount of research Österberg puts into each story and each page, I think it also is sure to entertain actual Greek mythology enthusiasts. The site houses an anthology of the tales illustrated in lovely, almost woodcut-looking black and white rendering. Each story is self-contained, though some characters appear in different tales (as is true of the actual myths). Comparable to what I had mentioned in my shout-out to No Scrying the other day, Theia Mania adeptly uses more modern vernacular in period-appropriate contexts to make the stories easy to follow and undertsand. The character designs are unique and pleasing (seriously, look at that little girl and tell me you don't want to hear her whole life story), and the settings have enough detail to feel authentic without getting overburdened with superfluous minutiae. Theia Mania has been one of my favorites for at least two years now, and I can see it being something I will continue to enjoy as long as Österberg continues to produce it.

That's that for this week, folks! Tune back in on Monday for the next segment of this scene, sure to be better than this page. Maybe things will smile on me this weekend and I'll get it up early Sunday evening again, like the old days.


Reply Oly-RRR, October 11th, 2014, 12:30 am

I dunno, I like this page but you're probably noticing stuff I'm not noticing, I'm the same with my pages. My favourite parts are definitely "How - could it - have been worse?!" and Joseph's stare on the bottom panel. :D

And as for your approach for "selling" webcomics - at least it works, at least in my case! :D I think we're on the same page about Greek mythology (my awful illustration professor was a huge fan, so on the upside I found out about some lesser known stories and all kinds of interesting shit, on the downside I had to endure rants of an asshole who was sure some stories are better than others just because they happen to be written by people who lived centuries ago) so knowing that you enjoy this comic makes a huge difference - when it comes to webcomics I also sometimes go for themes that normally don't interest me much (like fantasy or big amounts of supernatural) but then it turns out there's more than enough aspects that make me really enjoy the comic. :] So yesss, another comic on my to-read list!

Reply Bluezilla, October 11th, 2014, 5:55 pm

Ooh, all the characters are in top form right now. I particularly like Eddie's comment, actually, because he's really the only one with musical talent and training enough to recognize it/crush Joseph's dreams. Heh.

Also, Marie. <3 "Welp, guess it's a tragedy!"

I've put all your list of reccs in new tabs so that i can waste my time later reading them. New webcomics ftw, and if they're anything like yours (or if there's something in the sensibility that aligns....you know what i mean) they'll be great. :D

Reply mitchellbravo, October 11th, 2014, 6:37 pm

@Oly-RRR: Awww, thanks. I really liked the way it was coming together when I was sketching it, but I think I was starting to get burnt out around the time I was inking, and I feel like it set up a lot of issues that coloring didn't fix, but nothing specific enough for me to redo it. Hehehehe those are my favorites too :P Marie just pushes Joseph's buttons so easily, and I don't know that she really grasps the extent of it XP

Yes that's how I feel about these things! I think what puts me off from a lot of fantasy or sci fi comics is that, for whatever reason, even if this is totally not the author's intent, I read into them a sense of pretentiousness that makes it really difficult for me to get invested? But like in this comic's case the art sold me enough to lure me in to read it, and I was really pleasantly surprised by it, enough to stick around! I'm glad we have so much likey-thing overlap, it makes choosing new consumables much easier XD

@Bluezilla: Hahahahaha thaaanks!!! To be fair to Joseph, he *does* have a good singing voice, but as is depicted on the cacophonous page, the gang just hasn't worked together enough to blend properly, and Joseph being Joseph he'd rather stick out (in a good way) than try to blend, anyway. Meanwhile Eddie knew from the minute he set two hands on that piano that things weren't going to go well, but tried to do his best regardless :P

XD Most people know to back down when Joseph's pissed about something and let him be, but Marie just doesn't care.

Omg that's awesome, I'm so glad to hear you're checking them out! Aww and thanks!! I think most of them have at least something in common with mine, be it some vague similarity of art style, or just an atmosphere/tone of the storytelling. Then some like the one posted here are just good and need to be shared because they should be more popular XP

Reply Oly-RRR, October 12th, 2014, 2:30 am

@mitchellbravo: I think it might have something to do with Marie's easygoingness versus Joseph's seriousness? My mum and I sometimes have that going, she seems to be developing some weirdly laidback attitude over the years so sometimes she's all "ehhh, don't worry, it'll work out... somehow..." and I'm all sdgfsadgfsd XD

Yeah, now that I think of it, it might be more about general storytelling style and the way characters interact that makes the difference for me - I mean fantasy characters never seem to have the same behaviour and relationships like characters in slice-of-life stories? Like would I follow Loud Era or Rescue Me if the setting was some kind of Middle Earth? I probably would. And if the setting was the same but everyone started talking like elves and wizards? Probably not. I think the reason I stuck with Harry Potter was because it's basically kids going to school and doing usual things kids do more than anything and magic doesn't remove most issues they would encounter in ordinary world.

Speaking of Rescue Me, I was doodling before sleep yesterday (decided to do it more, especially when I'm too tired to ink) and I have a terrifying suspicion THE PROBBIE IS RUBBING OFF ON ALAN FISHER, THUS MAKING ALAN EVEN MORE DAFT THAN PREVIOUSLY ESTIMATED XD

Reply mitchellbravo, October 12th, 2014, 4:13 pm

@Oly-RRR: Yeah that's definitely something to do with it! Joseph is used to dealing with consequences more than normal, and Marie just kind of operates in a state of denial most of the time with a few exceptions where she overreacts and takes things to heart (the gang not coming over after prom, for example). And yeah Home and I have a lot of that dynamic as well, with her typically being the easygoing one and me being more high-strung, though I've mellowed out a lot since high school ended I think :P

That's a really good point, I think I'll try to consider that next time someone recomennds a fantasy thing to me. I know what you mean, it's like the reactions just seem weirdly scripted, in the sense like "This dialogue/interaction/reaction only makes sense in this particular world" which I find dull and not really fun to read. Most, if not all, of the non-realistic fiction I've enjoyed has fallen into that category of "setting weird but behavior realistic." Heck, that's evne what's put me off from a lot of manga comics I've tried to read, the behaviors just often seem so inseperably "manga" that it's tough for me to feel invested in the characters, if tha tmakes sense.

OHMYGOD OHMYGOD OHMYGOD LMAO SO I READ THAT FIRST AS "i have a terrifying suspicion that the probie is rubbing one off on Alan Fisher" and I was like NOOOOOOOOO DON'T TURN COP STORY INTO A CREEPY RAPE YAOI XD XD XD and then I got really confused as to why it would make Alan dumber, like is he ingesting the Probie's sperm and therefore taking on his traits???? or just being naive and not knowing what is going on and not putting a stop to it???? And then I properly reread it like a good English speaker and was relieved. XD Breathing back to normal now, lmfao. Liteally more hilarious than Choseph and the clandestine buttsex committee XD

Reply Oly-RRR, October 12th, 2014, 4:55 pm

@mitchellbravo: Hahaha, to be fair it does get easier after high school!

And yeah, good point! I know what you mean about manga - irl nobody starts flailing like crazy over trivial stuff, except obviously for girls who read too much manga with characters acting like that, and so on and so on.


But really in an EXTREMELY UNLIKELY situation of me writing buttsex crossovers when it comes to the Probie with his "to gay or not to gay" and Alan with his borderline depressed confusion about hitting or not hitting on girls he doesn't particularly want to hit on but everyone tells him he should I have a feeling that any lovemaking between the two would be as frustrating and pointless as this old classic - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhRHBWUSKoY XD Hehehe I think I wanted to say something else about the similarities between the two but now I'm too amused.

I'm mid-season 4 and oh man, I grew so attached to them they do seem familiar almost as much as my own cast. Tommy is suspiciously like Nutter and that makes me weigh up the Denis Leary sub more carefully because I don't want him to end up as just a version of Nutter. And I think I put my finger on another thing that makes writing female characters harder for me (and now that I put my finger on it I can start fixing it, I'll write in detail tomorrow I hope). And dammit Chief Reilly, I kind of knew the stubborn bugger wouldn't just peacefully retire but I expected he had a couple more seasons ahead... :C I actually watched the retirement episode before bed yesterday and had a repetitive disturbing dream of trying to stop him shooting himself. :/

Reply mitchellbravo, October 15th, 2014, 9:59 am

@Oly-RRR: Yesssss the overreacting, exactly!!! I mean I guess it's meant as humor but it just doesn't make me laugh or smile or feel a positive emotion? Lol. Like it would have been different when I was like 12 and being random and over-the-top was still the pinnacle of humor buuuut I'm old and tired now so these things tend to grate on me instead of tickle...

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO THAT VIDEO THAT VIDEO LMAO the day after you sent me this we had an assembly in school that was mostly humorous but also had some really sad touching moments, and at one point during a sad/touching moment the guy really quickly made a small joke and made an "eh" sound and I thought about the turtle and laughed and COULD NOT STOP THINKING OF IT AND CHUCKLING EVEN AFTER HE RESUMED TALKING ABOUT KIDS WITH CANCER

Yeah the scene with Chief- well, I'll go into more detail in the thread but there was some kinda unpleasantness around that production-side D: The show defnitely doesn't shy away from stuff like that though, and yeah, it can really get stuck in your head- the randomest things, sometimes not what you'd expect would keep lingering, but stuff that maybe didn't disturb you AS much at first but then came back later....

Reply Oly-RRR, October 15th, 2014, 11:46 am

@mitchellbravo: Yeah, I guess it's similar to how modern cartoon shows with everyone running around yelling on top of their lungs don't work for us...

Pfff I get moments like that too, it's hilarious and terrible and you can't help it and explaining WOULDN'T HELP ANYWAY. "What are you so amused about?" "Oh nothing, you just reminded me of A TURTLE HUMPING A SHOE" XP Actually the same day I was outside and saw a guy looking EXACTLY LIKE LOU BUT WITH GLASSES and I couldn't help grinning and he gave me a very disturbed look. :P

And aw man, I was kind of wondering about that when I watched it but I still stay away from wikipedia and such because of spoilers. It sucks when real life production issues affect plots but actors aren't robots so it's understandable that happens from time to time. Though sometimes I think it would be cool if every character were a Time Lord and we'd get Chief bitching about how he's still not ginger in the next episode. :P

Reply mitchellbravo, October 16th, 2014, 12:18 pm

@Oly-RRR: AHAHAHAH I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA SAY THE GUY LOOKED LIKE THE TURTLE OR THE SHOE. What if I could just interpret what you tell me properly for once instead of having these fanciful bouts of imaginative reading XD Ahahaha I think Lou even does wear glasses sometimes which ONLY MAKES THE MAN'S APPEARANCE MORE APPROPRIATE.

Reply Oly-RRR, October 16th, 2014, 3:39 pm

@mitchellbravo: But those moments are so worth it! For a second there you were living in a wonderful universe where I was telling you about how I saw a man walking about humping a shoe in broad daylight :D :D :D

Reply mitchellbravo, October 29th, 2014, 4:55 pm

@mraab: It really is fabulous, isn't it? I think it deserves far more than the <200 fans it has here on SmackJeeves, but then again it seems I feel that way about a lot of comics that are hosted here (including most of the ones I shared). I feel a collaboration between the two of you would be most explosively grandiose and brilliant :D

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