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Reply mitchellbravo, September 6th, 2015, 9:36 pm

Happy Labor Day to my American readers!

For the curious, no, this isn't the uncle who owns this mysterious, mythical instrument.

I'm really liking the farmhouse so far as a setting, just because the interior is fairly unintimidating as far as drawing goes (and my love for wooden paneling is appeased with its actual wooden walls).

I was never a little girl who loved horses, but I have to get used to drawing them because they'll feature from time to time here given the time period. They're just really weird looking animals, like you think you know what one looks like, how to draw it, but things on them IMO connect at weird angles or are different proportions than I envision without looking at a reference. So please forgive my miserable quadrupeds in panel one, they'll leave.

You can't see it so well on this page, but you'll see it more on the next, it's just a comment I'd like to toss out- regarding the scarf that Aunt Hilda is wearing- Marie's camping outfit took no inspiration from her, as H & O are the type of family Marie hasn't seen in years and only for grand occasions such as deaths and maybe weddings.

People who are looking for a tiny puzzle may puzzle out which of Marie's parents is related to which of Hilda or Oval. I know it's not a very exciting puzzle, but it will be explained in canon by the time we get to about the middle of the chapter or so.

I liked drawing the clouds here, though they definitely looked better on paper than once scanned. Still the end result was not terrible, though.


READER'S DISCUSSION:

Reply Oly-RRR, September 7th, 2015, 6:46 pm

Oh my gosh, I love Aunt Hilda more every time I see her! AT THIS RATE BY THE END OF THIS CHAPTER I'LL BE SENDING YOU KINKY FANFICTIONS ABOUT HER, OVAL AND THE CANE ...SO THAT'S WHAT'S UP WITH THAT ARM, FORGOT THE SAFE WORD? :D

But it's ironic because irl as a kid and ESPECIALLY around Marie's age I would be really annoyed by a relative like her. I can practically smell and feel her - dunno if I'm right but I get that sort of old people smell of hardcore tobacco mixed with old clothes mixed with something flowery or grassy, and hands that are hard and not exactly dirty but you can still tell if she was cooking or digging in the garden or what right before she touched you. And if she does the cheek kissing thing it's REALLY drooly. Oval smells pretty much like my grandpa in my imaginations, which way less flowery but also for some reason more clean. And by now I know that those sides of old people don't matter because personality is more important and that we're all probably going to be a tad grubby around that age, and too many people who are not are stuck up jerks buuut at Marie's age it was pretty much panel 3. XD

Right now I think they are from her father's side - based on purely visual side for now, and not the circumstances since there can be multiple reasons why it's Marie's mother bringing her there.

I like the clouds and as for the horses I was never thrilled about them either (and a horse bit me once when I gave it my apple which made me more suspicious about them XD) but my favourite art teacher insisted that they were on the list of stuff any artist needs to practice just in case, and the advice he gave me was "you draw them with legs too long, only foals have long legs". I dunno why, but remembering that horses don't actually have legs that long always helped me, though really the best course is grabbing a reference, they ARE really weird animals. XP

Reply The_Hankerchief, September 7th, 2015, 9:07 pm

First thought upon reading the title of this page:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwqhdRs4jyA

Legendary.

Also, I'm pretty sure Marie's so down only because she wanted to go to the other uncle's house.

Reply Squirreltastic-Blue, September 7th, 2015, 10:03 pm

Who doesn't own a bat by the door?

Your art is outstanding as usual, and your interiors are just stunning, but the horses are a little lower quality than your usual. I don't mean they look bad, on the contrary, you drew them very well, but I feel it was a struggle for you. They just don't fit in as well as everything else.

Reply General.Hankins, September 8th, 2015, 2:59 am

^^^ Seconded,everyone should keep Louisville's best by the door, just in case of burglary, Zombies or Baseball.

Are both of his hands broken?

Reply mitchellbravo, September 8th, 2015, 8:02 pm

@Oly-RRR: LMAO LMAO LMAO. I know though, right????

And I totally agree, I can see her being the type of person who is just so "on" and going and going that it kind of would go over my head- I always loved the relatives on both sides of my family, but when I was a kid or young teen, some of them were like that and I always felt almost like we were speaking different languages, like I couldn't read their tone or know how they really wanted me to answer. (I'm also one of those people where for a long time if someone asked me "How's it going" or "What's up" I had no idea how to respond, because no one ever explicitly taught me how to answer those questions... but that's more tangential to this discussion :P )

Aahaha totally yes with the smells and all, just like a really earthy type of atmosphere about her, not dirt in like a filth or greasy way but just kinda "it is what it is" and not really caring much about it kind of way, an earth way. Which I think makes Marie's reactions to them funnier, because you would think based on her quirks and idiosyncracies "weird farm people" would be right up her alley in terms of companionship, but here we are...

Home has a goat story quite similar to your horse sotry XP That's so funny, on mine the legs were blatantly too short, they kept looking like Emma, lol. But god, even their faces are weird. I can totally get why people like them but to someone who's spent very little time aroudn them they're extraordinarily alien looking.

@The_Hankerchief: You got it!! That's the song I was referencing, I just forgot to mention it in the big comment. If Janis Joplin was a big musical influence for the last chapter, Traveling Wilburys are certainly a big part of this one. We'll see what other references I can sneak in.

LOL. I like that interpretation a lot. At least there she could brush up on her musicianship a bit.


@Squirreltastic-Blue: Right?? Lord knows sometimes I wish I had one there...

Aah thanks! Oh, yeah, totally. The reason they stick out so much is because that's one thing I can't draw without directly looking at a reference. Like I haven't "absorbed" horses yet to the point where I can just kind of glance at what I want them to look like and go from there, there's a lot of bakc-and-forth. It's something I'll have ot work on for sure. Most other things I can kind of wing, but then again most other thigns I've drawn are simple (tables, simple houses, suitcases) wheras horses and other animals that are familiar to people get more complex.



@General.Hankins: Imagine a world where as adults your friends still come by knocking on the door to go play a pick up game of ball in the street... well, now I"m all wistful!

And yes, you caught it! Right before you read through, there was a concept art up of Hilda and Oval that showed Oval's second cast more clearly, here it's kind of hidden behind her. I think I'm going to let the "how" of how they got that way remain open for interpretation by all.

Reply Oly-RRR, September 9th, 2015, 6:56 pm

@mitchellbravo: Yes, THAT! I still sort of have that sort of different language thing with my grandpa, like sometimes he says something and I know he really means something else but I also can't make myself reply to what I think he actually asked so he probably feels the same frustration on his end.

And YEAH, "what's up" IS HARD, like it's easy when it's someone you barely know and you can more or less lie but harder when it's someone closer so it can mean multiple things. WHAT'S UP THE SOCIAL STORY

Haha, yeah, it does add some irony to it - I think it could be one of those moments that feel awful but are sort of funny to remember later. I'm still not sure Marie will grow to love the place but I bet she'll see more sides to it eventually...

Horses ARE weird compared to mammals we are more used to. They even process visual information differently - if you lead a horse past a scary object in one direction and then back it can get scared twice because it doesn't recognize it as the same object when seeing it with one eye only. And I think they see everything larger than we do as well.Basically, horses are crazy though of course from their point of view WE are the crazy ones. :P

BUT GOATS ARE EVEN CRAZIER HAVE YOU SEEN THEIR EYES

GOATS AND SHEEP

I need to cook up a short about a school visit to a farm or something.

Reply mitchellbravo, September 14th, 2015, 3:13 pm

@Oly-RRR: Yessss. And it's one of those things where I feel like it's the adults job (as presumably the one iwth more social experience) to realize when the kid they're talking to isn't really understanding the level they're on? Like I know there's some kids I work with now that I'll just qualify stuff more often, saying "I'm kidding" or just doing a silly face if it seems like they're taking something I meant jokingly as a serious comment, you know?

UGH I SO COULD HAVE USED THE SOCIAL STURY FOR THAT. Lmao and in a turn of the tables "What's up" is like my go-to greeting these days for most people I talk to!!! But again, if I'm talking to a kid and I see they're hesitating I'll follow it up quickly with like "How are you doing" or something. HELPING OTHERS TO HELP THEMSELVES TO HELP ME TO HELP THEM TO AVOID BEING MORE ME

Oh man that's so weird, the horses perception of the world. I also read somewhere that horses are like afraid of ants??? Idk man!!! Lol imagine the horse being like "WTF is up with these stupid humans that keep making us walk past that scary thing?!?!?!"

I LOVE GOATS I THINK THEY ARE MY FAVORITE FARM ANIMAL /jarvis

Omg please that would be wonderful :D I was so disappointed, my class-school had a petting zoo last Friday that i got an email about and I really wanted to go to it but it was during work-school hours only >:[

Reply Oly-RRR, September 14th, 2015, 4:16 pm

@mitchellbravo: Yeah, definitely, it's nice when adults do it more! Though in my case I'M AN ADULT NOW AND GRANDPA IS ALSO AN ADULT BUT WE'RE BOTH REALLY UNCONVINCING ADULTS :O But yeah, when it comes to anyone else I just try to sort of clarify things more simply because I know I am not the easiest person to understand sometimes.

I guess horses are just as confused by us as we are confused by them XD

GOATS!!! AND TURTLES!!1

Aw maaan! :C You should have hijacked a work-school class and taken your kids to the zoo too- OH WAIT 0_0

But yeah, I want to draw something about a school trip, really lately the writing part of my brain seems be in this Peppa Pig mode and keeps throwing up stuff like "AND THEN TROY THREW THE BALL OVER THE FENCE AND IT LANDED ON THE HIGHWAY (it was a very pretty ball, oh and five people were hospitalized and one of them didn't have the car insured) AND TROY WAS UPSET ABOUT THE BALL AND WENT TO EAT STUFF FROM THE FLOWER BED BUT MURRAY SAID IS WAS A BAD DECISION (a bit like driving a car without insurance)" and on one hand that's totally up my alley but on the other hand I'm still not sure how to combine that stuff with other arcs that are more about UNCOVERING CONSPIRACIES, catching criminals, LOOKING FOR A QUALITY BIRD and trying to be in a band!!1 I guess it'll put itself together in my head eventually, I just feel a bit lost now. XP


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